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 solomon
Joined: Feb 2, 2007
Posts: 52
Location: Los Angeles | I'd like to become or someone like me, a universal admin because the latest generation of galcon users tend to be .. well, completely mental and there is often no rule whatsoever in many games. OR, can we set up some servers that only let in OLD people (meaning people who've been with galcon over siz months or so) ? | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 14, 2008 @ 7:03pm |
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txgangsta 
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 345
Location: DONT GO HERE!!!! http://eskim0.myminicity.com/ | I like the Universal Admin List, but the server owners should still be able to allow whoever they want as an admin. The six months+ server is just like the registered servers and such. It wont work, everyone will stay and play on whatever server has the most people. And with school going on for high schoolers and those going to college going on now, the amount of players is quiet limited. We might be able to pull that off in the summer, when noobs are aplenty, but its not time. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 16, 2008 @ 2:59pm |
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 conte
Joined: Apr 3, 2007
Posts: 8 | hi
i also like the universal admin idea. some servers never got an admin and games on this servers mostly suck.
i recommend myself :) as well as diesel, solo and nanno of course
conte | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 20, 2008 @ 4:33pm |
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dexter10 Joined: May 14, 2007
Posts: 35 | hi
i also like the universal admin idea. some servers never got an admin and games on this servers mostly suck.
i recommend myself :) as well as diesel, solo and nanno of course
conte
it is not right, for example solomon uses admin rights for his revenge when he losses, and he is not good player so he loses very often... | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 20, 2008 @ 5:57pm |
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incognito Joined: Jun 25, 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Scotland | Im all for this Universal Admin thing. All net games aught to be well admind and have trusted people there to sort out problems. People can run their servers and admin who they like... but the rules aught to be fallowed and the best way of doing this is by having a list that must be added to every server. Whether im on the list or not... it like to see this in place ASAP. post updated on Feb 20, 2008 @ 5:58pm | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 20, 2008 @ 9:15pm |
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 nanno
Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 479
Location: Colorado | I've been a fan of this concept for a while now, but Phil has not been, and since he's the man of the house and the king of Galcon, his vote is the one that counts. However, now that several people besides just Nanno are asking for it, he's giving it some consideration. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 20, 2008 @ 9:18pm |
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nanno
Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 479
Location: Colorado | it is not right, for example solomon uses admin rights for his revenge when he losses, and he is not good player so he loses very often...
Dexter10, you lost all credibility with that last phrase ("he is not good player so he loses very often"). Solomon is one of the best players I know, and I've played most of them. Be nice to him and he'll be nice back. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 21, 2008 @ 12:56am |
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dexter10 Joined: May 14, 2007
Posts: 35 |
it is not right, for example solomon uses admin rights for his revenge when he losses, and he is not good player so he loses very often...
Dexter10, you lost all credibility with that last phrase ("he is not good player so he loses very often"). Solomon is one of the best players I know, and I've played most of them. Be nice to him and he'll be nice back.
i dont need to be nice, i play galcon, i beat him few time so he banned me, and he banned some other guys.
He talk not nice and he uses his admin rights for his own revenge when he loses.
I played with mim a lot of times and he is not very good player. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 22, 2008 @ 5:50am |
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txgangsta
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 345
Location: DONT GO HERE!!!! http://eskim0.myminicity.com/ | Ok, now that we have some backing, we need to vote on who is on the list. All nominees need to have played for a while, and need to be trustable. I would like to nominate nanno and phil of course =) but also haam, solomon, and incognito. I haven't played with conte enough to know whether or not he abides by the rules, and I've never even seen incog use his powers. There can be others too, its just too early in the morning for me to think of any =). Can anyone second some of my nominees? | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 22, 2008 @ 8:40am |
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incognito Joined: Jun 25, 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Scotland | I like your list Tx and i think youd be a great admin. I agree about Conte, does any one know him/her well enough to recommend? | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 22, 2008 @ 10:36am |
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nanno
Joined: Nov 30, 2006
Posts: 479
Location: Colorado | So here's the drawback to the universal admin concept: It could get very nasty and political. The fact is, there are some people that most of us get along with, but then they get into trouble with others for whatever reason. Is it fair to force someone to admin a person they don't like and don't trust on their server?
Then there are great people who are having a bad time. Whether they're having problems at their work, or had too much to drink, or experiencing numerous timeouts because of internet problems, people tend to go through cranky, unpleasant phases. Sometimes they have trouble with one or two nasty or misguided players and suddenly everyone is an enemy. And let's just face it: some people are wonderful until they are in power. Suddenly it goes to their heads and makes them a jerk to everyone who doesn't give them a perfect game of Galcon. And almost all of us are subject to GAS attacks from time to time (Galcon Addiction Syndrome for those who don't know), which causes us to be overly concerned with ranks and winning and perfect games (perfect meaning no one ruined MY win).
The biggest problem, though, is that I will have to deal with all the complaints and conflicts that arise. This is where I start to back away from the universal admin concept. I would rather deal with someone refusing to make me an admin on their server (even if it's for a frivolous reason) than deal with the explosion that would occur if they were forced to empower me. The fact is, everyone recommended so far for this universal admin list (with the possible exception of Incognito) has been under fire at some point. I would like to say that all complaints have been groundless, but that would be untrue. In fact, most complaints have had some merit for which those responsible(including myself) have had to apologize.
So how do we deal with this obvious flaw in the system? Creative suggestions would be appreciated. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 22, 2008 @ 12:26pm |
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incognito Joined: Jun 25, 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Scotland | I agree with the points made, its a difficult one.
I would suggest that the long term server runners would be added to the admin list too as a way of thanking them for allowing us to play. I believe that it is important to have set admins to monitor the rooms. These admins aught to also be active in the forum too, helping sort out problems and giving direction to the new players.
It is important to remember that no one server is bigger than the game. Having a fair place to play is more important than having lots of different servers to do it.
It would be great of some of the server runners could give their views who knows me may find that a small list of active players will be accepted without fuss....
One idea I did have is that the /ban & /banip commands are some how automatically canceled after a 12 or 24 hour period. This may be a better way rather than having people fighting on the forum to play again. If there is a frequent offender this can be handled by discussion on the forum. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 22, 2008 @ 11:07pm |
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lemonbrown 
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
Posts: 128 |
it is not right, for example solomon uses admin rights for his revenge when he losses, and he is not good player so he loses very often...
Dexter10, you lost all credibility with that last phrase ("he is not good player so he loses very often"). Solomon is one of the best players I know, and I've played most of them. Be nice to him and he'll be nice back.
Ah Dexter10, i see i am not the only person that views solomon as a tapioca eating, beard growing, monster. And you are correct, he is very bad at galcon, one time, we were playing, and he was like, zomg, im so good, and i was like, blam, and beat him. Fo sho. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 22, 2008 @ 11:07pm |
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lemonbrown
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
Posts: 128 | Ah, If this universal admin thing does go through, i would like to be nominated as one. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 23, 2008 @ 5:28am |
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pektrus Joined: Dec 16, 2006
Posts: 25 | Think about this in this "universal admin":
The universal point where you all agree is that each one wants to be in that list :-)
How about trying to maintain a server first? Whithout servers there is no Galcon...
Give some consideration to the few guys that maintain a 24/7 server.
PS: I give admin rights to near everyone i played more than once.. but im not happy about being forced to give admin rights to a list... i think i would end my server instead.
recommended is good. mandatory is evil. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 23, 2008 @ 10:22am |
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 haam
Joined: May 18, 2007
Posts: 127 | Ah, If this universal admin thing does go through, i would like to be nominated as one.
What??!? Who would ever give you admin rights???? Go eat oatmeal | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 23, 2008 @ 8:15pm |
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txgangsta
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 345
Location: DONT GO HERE!!!! http://eskim0.myminicity.com/ | So here's the drawback to the universal admin concept: It could get very nasty and political. The fact is, there are some people that most of us get along with, but then they get into trouble with others for whatever reason. Is it fair to force someone to admin a person they don't like and don't trust on their server?
No no no no... They aren't forced to make someone an admin, thats just above and beyond. I wouldn't expect anyone to agree to that. What im saying is that when a new server is made, a group of log in's are automatically admined. The server owners can take them off of course, they're the server owners. They get to run their server how they see fit. But some server owners just don't care if anyone is an admin or how many there are, so this gives a little stability. I think that it needs to be a very limited number of people, with many recommendations, just so that it doesn't get out of control. Only people that are near guaranteed to act right and be fair need to be on this. I wish not to be one of these. I had a outburst back in august that needs to not happen again. Also, by being the main supporter in the uni-admins, it makes me look power hungry.
I thought of some more uni-admins to nominate!
Trivia21
Lemonbrown
Anyone what to 2nd these?post updated on Feb 23, 2008 @ 8:50pm | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 24, 2008 @ 1:32am |
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lemonbrown
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
Posts: 128 | Ah, If this universal admin thing does go through, i would like to be nominated as one.
What??!? Who would ever give you admin rights???? Go eat oatmeal
Um, for one, I tell great stories, and for two, i will eat oatmeal, becuase i love it. | | It's Just a Game :: Feb 24, 2008 @ 5:28pm |
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solomon Joined: Feb 2, 2007
Posts: 52
Location: Los Angeles | I'm glad this topic is getting attention. And I'm sympathetic to the point Pektrus makes that many people would want to be uni-admins. AND, as my own rep is being dragged around, I can understand how it's difficult making this work so that everyone is happy. When it comes to games, I am an extreme right wing conservative - everyone knows that it's "just a game" but there is absolutely no point to playing games if you don't follow the rules and though many long time players in here refuse to believe there are any rules in galcon, there is one - Play to Win (and if you want someone else to win, that is absolutely fine, you are still playing to win (for x)). That being said, I recommend the following uni-admins:
nanno (high tolerance, stern, fun-loving, Queen of Galcon)
Txgangsta (young upstart who knows everyone and understands balance)
Those two I have no reservations at all about. Several others who may be good and needed to round out the need to have an admin in most matches are:
Haam, Lemonbrown, Timesink, Kaizen (or whatever name he plays under now), Diesel and of course Phil.
A way to make this work without making Galcon a fascist regime is to enable private servers the ability to override the uni-admins (states rights vs federal law). And a way to find uni-admins may be a vote, though I insist on being a Super-delegate on account of my oldman status. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 24, 2008 @ 6:37pm |
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txgangsta
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 345
Location: DONT GO HERE!!!! http://eskim0.myminicity.com/ | What does Haam need to round out? I might even pick her over nanno! =)
The others I can see a little of what your talking about, and this should be about as conservative as it gets. The recommended page is WAY too left winged for something that gets this privilege.
There needs to be a vote. Who is a Uni-admin and who's not? It shouldn't be the old man deciding this, how ever old he may be, But an adequate voice for and against users. How do we get more people to vote? Some will think we are dictating and not giving others a say. I think even unregistered users should vote on this, but not be uni-admins. They need to cough up 20$ for it =) | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 24, 2008 @ 9:49pm |
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lemonbrown
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
Posts: 128 | What does Haam need to round out? I might even pick her over nanno! =)
The others I can see a little of what your talking about, and this should be about as conservative as it gets. The recommended page is WAY too left winged for something that gets this privilege.
There needs to be a vote. Who is a Uni-admin and who's not? It shouldn't be the old man deciding this, how ever old he may be, But an adequate voice for and against users. How do we get more people to vote? Some will think we are dictating and not giving others a say. I think even unregistered users should vote on this, but not be uni-admins. They need to cough up 20$ for it =)
Haha, I agree with the registered deal. Also, uni admins need to be quite active, many a games i go and there are no admins, and some punk is cussing me out. If there are to be uni-admins, need some in the right time spots, people play a different times of course, considering people who play galcon live across the world. So a wide spread amount of uni-admins over nice time slots. Enough to where a admin would be not so rare to find at odd hours. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 25, 2008 @ 5:47am |
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txgangsta
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 345
Location: DONT GO HERE!!!! http://eskim0.myminicity.com/ | Haha, I agree with the registered deal. Also, uni admins need to be quite active, many a games i go and there are no admins, and some punk is cussing me out. If there are to be uni-admins, need some in the right time spots, people play a different times of course, considering people who play galcon live across the world. So a wide spread amount of uni-admins over nice time slots. Enough to where a admin would be not so rare to find at odd hours.
Well then, who's a good overseas candidate? Even though people from around the world play galcon, most of them play at the same time, so it is not as big of an issue, but yes, we dont need to have 4 uni-admins playing at the same time on the same server. If so, then what is the point of this whole idea? Who are the guys that play at 3 in the morning? And who are the guys that play from 9-5 while we're working?post updated on Feb 25, 2008 @ 5:53am | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 25, 2008 @ 6:30am |
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incognito Joined: Jun 25, 2007
Posts: 55
Location: Scotland |
Well then, who's a good overseas candidate? Even though people from around the world play galcon, most of them play at the same time, so it is not as big of an issue, but yes, we dont need to have 4 uni-admins playing at the same time on the same server. If so, then what is the point of this whole idea? Who are the guys that play at 3 in the morning? And who are the guys that play from 9-5 while we're working?
Well im from the UK so i sometimes play when your all in bed lol | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 25, 2008 @ 3:03pm |
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lemonbrown
Joined: Jun 18, 2007
Posts: 128 |
Well then, who's a good overseas candidate? Even though people from around the world play galcon, most of them play at the same time, so it is not as big of an issue, but yes, we dont need to have 4 uni-admins playing at the same time on the same server. If so, then what is the point of this whole idea? Who are the guys that play at 3 in the morning? And who are the guys that play from 9-5 while we're working?
Well im from the UK so i sometimes play when your all in bed lol
Hahah, well, the whole overseas thing was just an idea. But i will admit, at 2 am, thats the call time for about 6-7 people, it never fails, lol. | | Re: universal admin :: Feb 25, 2008 @ 6:53pm |
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txgangsta
Joined: Mar 12, 2007
Posts: 345
Location: DONT GO HERE!!!! http://eskim0.myminicity.com/ | Well, incog, i did nominate u =) |
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